soledad is a tricky one. >> when you look at a city of chicago versus salt lake city, different things need to be done in different parts of the country. what do you think makes sense nationally? because this is obviously a national effort that you guys have. >> what makes sense nationally -- look, i was thinking about the safety patrol. when i grew up in baltimore, public school number 144, we had safely patrol. >> i was a safely patrol. >> you were? a white thing across here, a badge. >> yes. >> this very nice young man met me in washington to go to the press conference and he's from wisconsin. wisconsin. dairy farm. drinking warm, grainy milk. i said did you have a safety patrol when you were growing up? he said, no, we didn't have any metal detectors. so even in wisconsin, right, a dairy kid grows up in a rural community with metal detectors. where have we gone that school is no longer a place where you can be safe, have imagination. so, you know, i think it's time for us to -- all of us to see what we can do and talk about it and talk until it changes. >> times certainly have chan